Osama Bin Laden Is Dead.

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  1. Blackee Dammet

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    It was quite a bastardization of your point, true, but given you didn't acknowledge my rebuttal about whenever you met anti-Gaddafi Libyans (since many would naturally have a different opinion of Gaddafi V. Americans after the civil war than they would in the 80's or 90's), the French involvement/instigation, the Afghan oil accusation, or the circumstances behind the (admitted questionably legal) bombings in the Balkans, I found myself entitled to a bit of hyperbole.
     
  2. Agent

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    Just got done reading an extremely well thought out and long article written by Immortal Technique regarding this whole issue. Whether you agree with him or not, I'd suggest everyone to give it a read: The Legacy of Bin Laden
     
  3. El Muerto

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    Your post was a bit too long and I didn't have time to answer everything. I don't have time now either but I'll sum it up:

    - Libyan people are divided on whether they support Gaddafi, but but they've been hating America for a long time because this is not the first time Americans are poking their nose in Libya's own business.
    - French government with that clown Sarkozy are basically just a bunch of ass-kissers. Their country is in deep shit but they only care about getting a pat on the back from Obama.
    - I know about the proposed pipelines, it's still all about oil
    - I explained the circumstances, the Albanian terrorists occupied a part of our country and we fought them. But I guess that in the eyes of the US, Bin Laden is a terrorist and Hashim Thaci is a freedom fighter. And it was unquestionably illegal, with the start of that bombing, the UN ceased to have any real role in the world whatsoever.
     
  4. Benjamin

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    I definitely am struggling to see why there's any point in being Afghanistan any more. But we were already taking out troops anyways so at least there's that. Though, maybe they can pull them out a little faster now.

    ...let's just get the hell out of the middle east, ok America? :lol:
     
  5. Canadian Joe

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    It's mostly our boys in Afghanistan these days.

    Lots of Canadian casualties over the last few years there.
     
  6. Agent

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    Hah.

    US says bin Laden's death does not end Afghan war.
     
  7. Benjamin

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  8. Avo

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    Actually, the US has 30,000 Marines headed to the Stan'. They are only pulling some troops out of Iraq but the Afghan War is escalating. The Taliban have just promised revenge for Bin Laden's death.
     
  11. Benjamin

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    No, I heard that troops supposedly will be just about gone by 2014.
     
  12. Harlz

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    Gotta get that oil pipeline through!
     
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    If Bin Laden was really alive, he would've already released a video of him holding a newspaper with the headline "Bin Laden Dead!" on it. It would be a huge embarrassment for us and a huge win for them. The fact that Al Qaeda has been silent is proof that Osama's dead.
     
  15. Gloomy Mushroom

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    Has anyone acknowledged or even mention that the man that ran the US for quite some years who "fought terrorism", was indeed nothing less of a tyrant himself? The integrity of having a Bush family member run your country wasn't questionable, there was none at the beginning. I really do feel for the victims of 9/11 and like I said to the chat box viewers at the time, I'm not condoning the attacks in any way, but how would the American government like it if we celebrated the death of President Bush if he died? What he did, and the American government has done in the past were horrid and misleaded actions (IE Vietnam). I mean, was there a reason why statistically an American soldier died on an average of everyday in Afghanistan?

    I would like to see ANYONE justify the American involvement in Vietnam, I really would. People complain that these people, these Middle Easterns were horrible to the Americans and everyone was playing the hate game. You wonder why certain people like the Vietnamese, Cambodians and the Middle Easterns hate Americans or have in the past? Look at the damage their army leaves behind and look at the people involved in the decision making!

    Typical. They continued to fight in Vietnam AFTER Ho Chin Minh had died from natural causes, even though he was one of the reasons they were there to begin with.

    Saying otherwise is like saying everyone in the Middle East supports terrorism. It's a big generalisation saying that "you're from x so you support terrorism!". Wow, and that same race can go in retaliation "hey, you're white, you don't like black people who live in your country!"


    It was a really bad attempt at a bastardization if that be the case seeing how we're completely two different people on two different continents with two different opinions.
     
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  16. El Muerto

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    Yeah I agree, that would be an enormous risk, and Obama would probably have to resign if Osama turned out to be alive.
     
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  18. Harlz

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    Well let's see.
    There was never any firefight
    Osama never used his wife as a shield.
    There was never any live footage, despite the suggestion that that very concerned looking Obama in the photo was watching it live.
    They decided to respect muslim tradition and dump him in the sea this time hey? Why was it that with Saddam Hussein they went as far as showing naked pictures of him while he was alive, and released photos after he was executed, and his sons were paraded around Bagdhad after they were killed.
    Somehow I don't believe that the US military has had a huge change of heart and now honours the wishes of those they execute.

    Osama has been dead for years. The bloke was on dialysis 15 years ago, that isn't the kind of thing you can maintain while on the run from Team America.
     
  19. minusxerø

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    You'd think that, but a lot can change in the same group of soldiers under different leadership. Just look at the change in the Union Army during the Civil War. The same soldiers in the Union Army go from futile efforts in Fredicksburg, to pathetically losing to an army half its size in Chancellorsville, to the determined grit of Gettysburg.
     
  20. Tim

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    Different leadership, learning from past mistakes, etc.

    As for Bin Laden's alleged dialysis: http://healthland.time.com/2011/05/03/osama-bin-laden-did-not-have-kidney-failure/
     

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