I just realized what the two of you were bitching about and am unsure of why El Muerto's name appeared under Castiel's quote (I'm not sure why I saw EM's post as 'not my point' before). Regardless, I knew who said what and stand by "Whenever the Americans bomb something it's imperialism and when we did it it was different" is a bad argument. I think both of you knew what I was getting at though.
Exactly. George W. Bush had a lot of ties to the Saudi Royal Family and associations with the Bin-Laden family. George W. Bush directly turned down a request by the US Army's Special Forces Detachment Delta to apprehend Bin Laden during the battle of Tora Bora. It's safe to say that the Bush administration benefited largely from the "War on Terror". Think about it, if OBL had been apprehended right there, they wouldn't have had any excuse to push it pursue it further.
He was killed because he was camping at spawn Of course it's different. Forget about Yugoslav wars, take Israel and Palestina for example. Regardless of who you support in that conflict, they all live together and are both fighting because the lives of their own people are at stake and their territory is at stake. And although I don't support wars of any kind, such wars and conflicts are far more justified that wars for profit.
Again, it wasn't a War on Terror it was a War on Oil. George Bush Snr broke a deal with the Bin Laden family and the Saudi Royal Family concerning the pumping and distribution of oil and it is fair to say that he backstabbed them both. So even before his son was the next coming President of the US, America was screwed thanks to the dodgy dealings of George Bush Snr.
I think I might just be confusing the point people are making, but I don't know how the Bushes being friendly with the Bin Ladens could have helped or how they were betrayed here. Osama hadn't had anything to do with the rest of them for quite a while as far as I know.
Just read a captivating post by the Vigilant Citizen on the whole issue. Definitely worth a read. http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/binladen-mayfirst/
Just so we're clear, you guys think Bin Laden wasn't behind 9/11 and that he wasn't actually killed on May 1st? Come on now.
You think that they really couldn't find a single guy with all the modern technology for 10 years? Come on now. Just so we're clear, I think America killed its own citizens to justify going to Middle East.
I think believing that it took them 10 years to find Bin Laden is much more plausible than thinking the president of the United States murdering 3000 of his own citizens just so he could go to the Middle East. There are countless ways in which a president can convince a nation to go to war. Not even someone who's dumb as George Bush would do that by killing his people and in the process taking down one of America's most known landmarks. For the hell of it, let's just say you're right. Why did Bush send 4 different planes? Wouldn't one plane into the World Trade Center been enough? Hell, he could have just fabricated an apparent attack rather than actually letting one happen. And what president would want an event like 9/11 happen to his administration? Thanks to 9/11, Bush will go down as one of our worst presidents. It makes no sense why he would do such a thing. Come on now. You called it 'captivating.' That's the best way of saying "I agree with this" other than saying "I agree with this."
Agreeing with something is not a requirement for being fascinated by it. Maybe I didn't use the right word.
I find it hilarious most of you don't even consider Pakistan had been tipping off Bin Laden for years. Bush orchestrated mass murder of U.S. citizens, covered it up damn near flawlessly, paid off the thousands who would have to have been in on it with so much money to not uncover it and become national heroes for the rest of history, to start a war (again, this was the only reason 9/11 happened) and then...... not even tried half as hard on that warfor which the entire plan was hatched for = totally happened Some ISI shot Bin Laden a "Hey, them 'mericans getting pretty close to you. Thought I'd let you know" text for years? Nah, Couldn't have happened. Had to have been that whole mass conspiracy thing. Also i wonder if El Muerto buys this load too; Lady Gaga’s “Born This Way” – The Illuminati Manifesto
I definitely think there's a possibility that Pakistan tipped him off/helped him out. But, for me anyways, they're innocent until proven guilty.
It's a case of what's more likely; Hundreds of people engineering the mass murdering thousands and not a single one ever coming forward to all the fame and eternal glory that would come with blowing the lid off of the conspiracy which itself was hatched "to go into the Middle East" (no matter that the US has been in the Middle East for decades before), and then when they got their war (which, follow along, was the only reason for 9/11 at all), they sent in half as many troops as the military dictated needed for their to be complete control, and didn't steal enough oil to prevent a recession, rendering the entire thing pointless. or "hey b-lad them yanks comin best gtfo- ur nigga fasel" never mind the fact everyone keeps doing the WAI U NO FIND MAN IN CAVE?!? and has casually neglected the whole 'wasn't in a cave and was actually in a fort beside a military academy' thing.