I'm devastated by this. I grew up with Lostprophets as one of my favourite bands and even saw them live. I can't believe Ian Watkins could do all this horrendous things. He truly is very sick. The thing that makes me even more disgusted is that he seemed to even want to make a mockery of what he did with the password he chose for the computer on which a lot of the evidence was stashed...
I'm curious if the fans will keep on listening to the band. But yeah, he should be jailed for the rest of his life.
Yeah. It's psychotic on such a deep level; it's not like you share your password with anyone. It's so oddly personal... ugh. It's terrible what happened. I'm just glad he won't be able to do anything else ever again to anyone. I hadn't ever listened to Lostprophets prior to this. I listened to some of their hits on Youtube and I sort of like them, but the thought of what the man singing did always lingers.
If you look at Chesters past and the fact that he called him a "tit" and a "cock".. this gets even more disturbing.
I think he means it seems ironic that Watskins can call other people names, when he himself is the true horror.
Yeah, but that hardly seems disturbing to me. Especially when he only called Chester a "tit" and "cock".
Mayber disturbing isnt the right word, sorry. I meant someone who abuses children calls someone a cock who has been abused as a child.
Well i guess i won't be enjoying that band anymore. This is truly outrageous and i just can't believe it. While some people probably want him hung, i totally agree with Rou Reynolds on this on: http://roureynoldsofficial.tumblr.com/post/68175529978/death-heads-in-sand
We already know the reasons. It's 99% of the time due to childhood trauma. Our brains are stupidly wired to become aroused by the traumas we experienced as kids. Girls that got abused end up attracted to abusive men. Kids that get molested often grow up liking to touch little kids. It's a snowball effect where the victim becomes the victimizer and the people affected keeps on growing. This is why psychiatric help and treatment should be seen as perfectly acceptable instead of the taboo it is today. Many people need help but don't want the stigma that goes with it.
This. I don't know why so many people frown against psychologic/psychiatric help. Even if you don't have serious mental issues, it's good for you every once in a while to do therapy, I'm thinking of doing it myself but I don't have the money yet.
I won't go as far as deleting my Lostprophets songs, but needless to say it's been difficult even up until now to listen to their stuff. At this point I will never listen to them again.
You hit the nail on the head. Personally, without trying to play towards generalisations, I wonder if the stepfather who works for the church has anything to do with this. I know that's putting two and two together and coming up with five, but, as everyone knows, a lot of sick shit goes on at the hands of people working for the church. My uncle heads a division of the psychiatric ward in a London hospital and he regularly works with patients who have committed sex offences. The vast majority of them indeed experienced some awful trauma themselves. It's to do with the cerebral development within the mind. The short explanation of it is that trauma triggers something in the mind that causes the person to believe on a subconscious level that what is happening is normal, almost like the mind cocooning itself from being damaged by that very trauma. It's interesting because I know people who were beaten as children who act out with violence over the slightest things and don't seem to have any idea what they're doing is wrong. It's also interesting to see how people affected by sexual trauma are often the most promiscuous. Case in point: The amount of people who work in porn who suffered abuse as children is substantial. I'm not saying we don't punish offences like this, but perhaps we need to look at the more psychological aspect of these types of cases before branding someone 'evil'. It's sick, and that's because we're dealing with someone who is sick.
This is why I've had so much mixed feelings concerning the band: Source: Lostprophets Facebook I feel so sorry for the rest of the band.
[video=youtube;Z2F3UurUZpU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2F3UurUZpU[/video] Thought it was relevant to the topic. And before anyone asks, no, this is not me.
I was thinking about back when I was around 12 years old and fakesoundofprogress was getting a lot of airplay and exposure. The song that meant most to me was Shinobi vs Dragon Ninja...For myself and a lot of my friends, that song was one of our anthems growing up. There was Last Summer and Last Train Home, but Shinobi seemed to have an energy about it. I remember in the summer of 2002 going to that parking lot where the video was filmed in Edmonton, London and just messing around with friends reenacting the video. Some had brought skateboards and I remember my mate David was even wearing similar clothing to Ian Watkins in the video. Eventually a lot of people actually ended up joining us, my friends had contacted their friends and all in all around 40 to 50 people showed up in this parking lot. We were all acting like idiots but it was so much fun. For some people, they were having their first joints, first beers and I know that one of my friends experienced his first kiss with a girl on that roof. We had formed a party and it was all because of that song and it's music video. God knows how many times it was played on shitty battery opperated 2002-grade speakers. It was one of those days when you're growing up that you don't forget. Fast forward a few years to when I was 17. I had lost contact with the majority of the people who we were on the roof that day. I was however in a band. I had taken up keyboards and formed a band with some good friends. We needed a bass player though, so we found a guy named Dan on a site called Bandmix. He met up with us and fit in right away and even told us we could jam in his garage. In the video for Shinobi, in the back round there are two white tower blocks. His garage was at the foot of one of those tower blocks. After our first jam as a full band we kicked back with a few alcoholic beverages and just listened to music, when on at random on Dan's ipod, Shinobi played. He seemed to have an excited look in his eye when he explained that the video was filmed just down the road. I told him I knew and that around 5 years previous me and a bunch of friends had partied on the rooftop of that parking lot. He looked at me with even more excitement and said "fuck off! I was there!", he then explained that one of his mates had called him up in August 2002 saying there was a party on the rooftop of the parking lot and that he had attended with a few other people. He then showed me a picture of himself from 5 years ago and indeed he was there. He was significantly shorter, but it was him. He wasn't someone I knew or hung out with before that party but 5 years afterwards, by sheer coincidence, he had become the bass player in my band. We jammed in that garage for 2-3 years. We never got anywhere with the band, never even managed to play a gig. A lot of conflicting personalities and schedules and lineup changes seemed to hinder our progress. But we had some awesome times nonetheless. We even went to a rock club down in central London called NASIN that was on every wednesday where Shinobi was played quite frequently (it always seemed to make the crowd go wild...nothing quite like an indoor moshpit in a fairly compact space with drinks being knocked out of people's hands and people slipping all around the wet floor). I cannot think about the garage or Edmonton in general without thinking about that party and that music video. In a weird way this news has effected me on a personal level because I cannot comprehend how someone who was in a band that I grew up listening to, dare I say idolizing, could be that fucked up and have done so many horrible things to young people who could not defend themselves. Shinobi was the last song they played at the gig I saw them at in 2006 and oddly enough, it remains the last song by the band I've listened to. I don't know how I'll feel about listening to their songs anymore, but for that particular song, I cannot help but feel emotionally attached to it because of the fond memories that it helped create. Ian, you let millions of people down. Just thought I'd share.