June 18, 2017 - Clisson, France | Hellfest 2017

My experiences seem to be different from everyone elses, everything I've seen suggests a lot of rap-centric fans can appreciate (even if they're not explicitly fans of) the bands more rock stuff, but aren't convinced of Mikes "cred" and don't think they make necessarily good hip-hop music. I think when seen as a "rock band with some rap sprinkles on top" they tend to appreciate it more, whereas you're not going to find a ton of rap purists go out of their way to praise Rising Tied.

Speaking of, Rising Tied got an "Ok" reception from a lot of pure rap fans, not huge props. In fact a decent case could be made that the lyrical content of Welcome, the last Fort Minor single, was almost entirely Mike complaining about his lukewarm response to his efforts to try and ingratiate himself into the "real rap" culture.

 

I know and have alot of friends who are rap-centric fans, and only praise HT and Meteora. Because those two albums speak to a large audience of different people on a lot of different levels. The casual listner will always know LP for those two albums, and at the end of the when its all said and done LP will always be remembered for HT and Meteora.

 

I actively post on Kanyetothe.com which is not only the world's biggest rap forum, it is also the world biggest artist forum. Straight for people's mouth, most of these rap fans view Linkin Park as a joke. Some of them don't but a lot of them do. Some of these people like rock too just more like Tame Impala and Radiohead styles of rock.

When it comes to Fort Minor, not all of them hate it. Some actually enjoy it but when I put it in my top 25 rap albums of all time list I did get some backlash for that album being included.

 

I like a lot of hip-hop/rap and I love The Rising Tied, non-bias aside. I didn't really enjoy Welcome, though. But I like the original Fort Minor shit a lot. We Major was cool too.

 

Now I want to bring up a touchy subject but one I thing might be relevant.

How much of that forum do you believe to be black? Because, "serious" black rap fans and "serious" white ones tend to consider different things when articulating opinions on what they deem good.And white fans, as "outsiders", might feel the need to overcompensate by not looking like they like corny songs or artists. Lil Wayne, for example tends to be received quite poorly by white 'hiphop heads', where you might rarely ever see a black rap fan unload a spiel about why Wayne is bad. Stuff like that.

Black fans, in my personal experience, might not feel like they're losing "credibility" by saying they enjoy Linkin Park music, where I think a white fan might consciously not want to be seen as endorsing what could be viewed as corny.

I realize there are more than two races, obviously, but I wanted to put out that example.

 

Whoa whoa whoa

What are we doing now

 

One day, if the band make a sequel to ATS or in the vein of Reanimation, people will always complain and compare it no matter how good the album is. Even if the band will release Hybrid Theory III, people will still complain and calling them desperate or sellouts.
I like OML more than THP and that's just my opinion..

 

I'm saying that black fans, since rap is commonly thought of as "theirs", would have less hesitation to admit to liking Linkin Park - despite perceived lack of authenticity or credibility in rap communities- than white fans of the same music if he feels he needs his opinion to be considered as as valid.

Pay less attention to the fact I'm talking about "the blacks", and go back to the example I posted about Lil Wayne? Have you not heard fairly unflattering opinions about his output over the years? Now have you not noticed a lot of the people who dislike his music tend to all look the same, which is differently than how Wayne looks?

 

Yeah I really don't have a response to that.

 

I mean I didn't think I was bringing up the Trayvon verdict or anything but ok...

 

Did you just... ah never mind, it's not even worth it.

 

Oh calm down people. What he's saying isn't that weird. he's just saying that white hip hop fans might be afraid to support hip hop artists that aren't critically acclaimed for fear of being seen as one of those "wannabe cool/think they know hip hop" white folks.

Not saying I agree with that theory, but I don't think it's that crazy. And let's not get that mob mentality going, please.

 

Hahah well that's true. I have to admit that I haven't read the whole thread, I'm just going off of that one post. I just thought I'd defend the guy before people started yelling "racist" or whatever. One thing that I don't always like about this forum is the way that people can kind of "gang up" on one person.