Mike Shinoda Sets The Record Straight on "Plaster"!

On Monday February 11th, 2008, four separate Linkin Park fansites (www.lpassociation.com, www.lpfuse.co.uk, www.lplive.net and www.lpprojekt.com) all joined forces to bring their dedicated visitors an exclusive download; the song "Plaster", which was a One Step Closer demo that had long been rumored in the Linkin Park world but was never exactly confirmed as legitimate until it's release.

Now; over a week later, in a response posted on www.mikeshinoda.com; Linkin Park band member Mike Shinoda has directly commented on the article we posted along with the song (an article prepared by the well known nkramar of LPU), debunking some of the claims made by David Kahne as well as helping to provide some more detailed information on the actual track itself.

Quoting directly from the original mikeshinoda.com post:

"a few weeks ago, one of our top LP fan sites, LP association, posted an old demo version of one step closer, back when it was still called “plaster.” they did a piece on the article which seemed to be searching for facts and trying to figure out the authenticity of the recording. i heard it, and i thought i’d try to help out.

LP Association article and links to song HERE

the track found on their link is actually a rough of the song in its final stages, after we had finished all the recording, but before a final mix. we were trying to decide who should mix the album, and we had our hearts set on andy wallace. our A&R guy’s boss at WB was david kahne.

according to our A&R guy at the time: david was one of the people who wasn’t 100% impressed with our band and our sound, and wanted to take a crack at mixing this song in order to improve things (and obviously try to convince us to let him mix the record). this may or may not be true, but that’s what we were told. obviously, david did a good job (the lpassociation mp3 is his mix)...but we decided to stick with our gut and go with andy. we had a feeling that andy, who mixed nirvana’s “nevermind,” would be a better fit for us.

some of the differences you can hear between “plaster” and the final album mix (by andy wallace)...

the main things that i remember sticking out to me when i first heard it was that david’s mix made the verses sound thick (because of the low end) and therefore the choruses lost a little bit of their punch.

some samples also stood out. the camera shutter-ish samples you hear in david’s mix are actually in the final andy wallace mix as well, but they’re mixed quieter (and thinner, i think). we liked them quieter in andy’s mix because they put more emphasis on the groove of rob’s drums.

finally, a deciding factor for brad and i against david’s mix was the edit to the “shut up” stuff—putting it in the intro. it made it sound like a remix, and ruined the surprise of the “shut up” coming in during the bridge (our thought was: if you’ve already heard that vocal part, the bridge packs less of a punch. it ruined the climax). that made me feel like we didn’t really see eye-to-eye on this mix, so although the mix was good overall, we chose to have andy mix the song and album.

in david’s interview with lpassociaton, he is (understandably) fuzzy about the details of our relationship back then. maybe it’s because he was dealing with many bands, while we, on the other hand, were only dealing with one album, and one label. hopefully i can help out by putting some details out there. david wasn’t involved with us when mark was in the band-he may have heard of us, but he didn’t work on our stuff. he did, however, get involved a bit once we were in the studio, by hearding demos and giving feedback-the same thing many label people and A&R folks do.

as you’ve heard, though, much of the feedback we got from the label at that time didn’t line up with the album we wanted to make or the band we wanted to be, so we chose to follow our own path.

the good and bad news about “plaster” is that i can’t think of another, earlier demo of the song that would really exist. the only step before this one probably wouldn’t have included any lyrics, but all the instrumental tracks would essentially be the same. as we wrote the song, we immediately recorded it, so that is to say there is only one recording; the first notes of the demo were in the same protools file that the song was finished in. there are no “live” demos, nor “garage recordings” of the song. so this version of “plaster” might be the earliest version out there."

Source: http://www.mikeshinoda.com/blog/Linkin_Park/plaster

We would like to thank Mike for once again taking the time to interact with the fans, and set the record straight on some of the information that was presented along with the track when it was first offered for download a week ago. May this response help put some of the long existing rumors about the song to rest!

Thanks to nkramar for the news.

 

I don't personally agree with him only mentioning us which is why I thanked nkramar for providing the actual article, and credited all 4 sites.

 

HUGE.

 

I think they're all probably pretty surprised this demo got out. I mean this is a big deal, especially considering that according to Mike it's the earliest version of the song in existence.

 

I just still cant believe that Mike mentioned LPA several times in the blog post.

It doesn't take a lot to humble me....I'm going to be honest. But this just has me floored that he made a blog post about the article we put on there, and it wasn't even me who wrote it. Nkramar made it for every site to post (although I think we were the only one who actually used it). I am a guy who thinks modestly about his accomplishments and always tries to downplay them even if others say they are amazing, so to have Mike basically respond to me/LPA (or shall I say nkramar really) directly is a big thing to me.

If you read the forums Mike, thank you so much. It's actions like this that remind me why even after 8 years, Linkin Park is still my favorite band. You guys do a tremendous amount for your fans and with the amount of fame you've amassed it's amazing you even get the time to do so.

Thank you again.