Anti-Homosexual App Approved by Apple App Store Receives Some Criticism

Well said, Sir.

 

Well, I think what Todd was basically much saying is that he doesn't like the idea of men having sex with each other but it's not his place to say they shouldn't, which is fair enough.

I agree that something promoting unity and such between gay people is not really the same as something that discriminates against them though. But I also agree with what he said about Apple's censorship.

 

I agree that Apple's censorship should be more consistent/or better yet they stopped censoring all together but he claimed that having a civil rights app that promotes positive views toward homosexuality is the same as having an app that clearly discriminates against homosexuals to support ones own personal bias and bigotry (disgust) and stated that that was hypocritical, which it is not. Especially given Apple's own rules and guidelines in their Apps Approval process. Thus that concluded in my understanding that he does not know what it is to be hypocritical.

 

I do agree that the app store should let go of their restrictions. In this case, some apps that shouldn't really be taken off will be able to exist, and some apps that are bad might also be out there. But if you don't like the app, don't buy it. Makes sense to me.

And I'm also okay with thinking that it's a bit strange to think of two men having sex. It's just the discrimination part that really irks me, as demonstrated above ^.

 

Is this a joke about docking?

 

I know. I just said a few simple things and Kept it like that.

Though, As people say that people can be born as one, as far as I can remember in my research, only ~30% of homosexuality is linked to genes. So 60% due to unknown/uncertain factors.

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But as dean/todd j said..

 

ok. I'm going to respect your opinion. You should respect mine. I never said homosexuals couldn't do anything, I just don't like the idea of two men being together. You tell me to change, but I won't. I'm not going to ask a homosexual to change. Like I said to each his own. Which is fair enough for EVERYONE. And no, I am not racist. Society can bring them down which is an unfortunate thing. I mean, I don't understand why people care if they are homosexual or not. Who cares? But that's how the world is. You know it's not just heterosexuals telling gays to change, homosexuals do it too. You might not hear it as harsh as straight people do but, they still do it. But there's some striaght people(like me) and gays that just say let each person live how they wanna live. But all I was saying is that I did not like the idea of 2 men being together. That's what I picture as wrong. You know you're telling me to change but, when we say you should change it's wrong? What's up with that?

And I don't hate homosexuals. But you think whatever man. To each his own. That's fair. I knew it was going to be a war in here when I posted, but I had hoped people would be mature enough to respect one another's opinions. And some do, and some don't. That's how it is.

 

If you don't hate homosexuals, why do you have to go around saying you HATE homosexuality? These are the things that actual homosexuals see which makes them feel terrible about themselves. I don't agree with Christianity, but I don't go around saying I HATE it.

And of course homosexuality isn't genetic. That's silly. But it's still not a choice. Yes, the factors are unknown, but in no way do people choose to be gay.

 

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=3025

Another study that adds on to the pile of evidence that sexual preference is hardwired into the brain since birth. So, I say no, not a choice. Though if this is the same for humans I can just see some overly religious person using it against someone saying they have a "cure" for homosexuality... and yet then again, homosexuals could say that they could 'cure heterosexuality and it would make everyone bisexual.

Anyway, again, I'm of the Pomosexuals... So I already believe that most people can have relationships with either sex if not for their corroded social upbringings and religious beliefs/teachings.

 

He's a Christian and is going on the "Hate the sin not the sinner" mentality.

I think the whole choice thing comes from Christians thinking nomming some pecker is a primitive instinct like wanting to kill someone, and that gays just decided not to suppress the urge.

But that's just my little interpretation from things they often say, I'm not a Christian and haven't really heard anyone give that analogy for it, just from what I can tell some might make a connection to.

 

To the research article...

It's not clear if they meant no preference to females, or no preference to either gender.

Don't forget, while the evidence is amounting up, it's only a strong correlation, but they haven't proven causation yet. Therefore, I'd like to see lots more experiments performed.


If the factors are unknown, then it certainly cannot be biological, nor by choice, because you said it!

We don't know yet!

edit: Methinks I ought to back outta this before some raging opinions start flying much quicker.

 

It's impossible with current technology to perform a study like this. With no studies, the next best thing is logic. Go up to any gay person and ask them if they chose to be in one of the most discriminated types of people in the world. Then report back.

The discrimination will never end until people realize that homosexuality isn't a choice.

 

http://www.stanfordu.edu/dept/news/pr/95/950310Arc5328.html

There's a good article. I'm not saying it irrefutably proves anything, but as it is going by what I do know I think it probably is biological as much as anything.

That said, I think it's safe to say it isn't a conscious choice and even if it was I don't think there'd be anything wrong with it morally. And sexuality is an inherent part of people, so society should hopefully at least learn to tolerate it even if they aren't in love with the idea.

 

Exactly.

 

But when the "sin" is something like sexuality, how do you draw a line between condemning the sin and condemning the sinner?

 

Saying you hate homosexuality shouldn't offend anyone. It's not the same thing as hating the people. I hate all religion, but I don't hate the people that believe in it.

 

I'm not talking about just disliking homosexuality and I know no one in this thread necessarily has this viewpoint, but to me when people say it's is a sin and that because of that you shouldn't act on your sexuality, sometimes it's hard to distinguish between hating the sin and hating the sinner.

 

I didn't mean that post for you, sorry lol.

But I get what you're saying. And I don't think there is a difference when you state it that way. If people believe in "sins" and are religious, they probably hate both the sin and the sinner. But people like me don't have to hate sinners because a book tells me to. Someone can do bad things and I can judge them however I please. Plus I don't believe a lot of sins people commit are even bad anyways.

So I guess it depends on the person's morals and religion and all that stuff.

 

I'd agree to most of this. Though as said earlier it's not even a "Gay Cure" app in the first place, so I guess this is now a homosexuality approval thread.

 

Uh, what?
I don't quite understand how this is a "homosexuality approval thread". Everyone is discussing their opinion. It's a forum, after all. I'm not sure how (or why) you drew that conclusion. We might as well say that it's also a "homosexuality disapproval thread".