The Anti-Bible

Here's a rhetorical question for you. Have you ever seen the wind?

 

Yes, I've seen my own farts.

Why don't you put a match to yours and see what happens.

 

Methane and wind are two completely different things, Casey.

 

YOU LIE.

 

pfft, and you ignore the best part of this debate, Derek.

 

YES. That's the new debate.

 

I asked that same question when I went through a time in my life where I started questioning my beliefs. I was told two similar things:

1) If you go along the "big bang" theory, there could not have been any sort of measure of time back then. So, a "day" back when the "big bang" happened and all these rocks were being formed and whatnot could've been completely different than what it is now.

And 2) If you go by Christianity, God lives forever so a "day" in the life of God could be a lifetime for a man or more.

So, yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say is, either way the planets and solar systems could've technically been created in six "days".

 

I LOVE GEORGE CARLIN'S RANT ABOUT RELIGION! THAT ONE!1

 

But doesn't the idea of some invisible man creating the entire universe seem a little absurd? I think so, besides, there are so many imperfections in nature that make you wonder "If god did create this, why does _____ happen." You can believe that god created everything if you want, but you have to wonder why he wouldn't make everything perfect and why he created diseases. When you make something or do a paper for schoo, you make it perfect, u doent tyep up ur papr liek dis on purpose....so why would god do that? And don't forget that there's not one shred of evidence to prove the creation theory.


Also, here's a few things:

1. It's been proven that at the beginning of time, the atmosphere was poisonous gas with very little or no oxygen and human life could not survive. According to the creation theory, Adam and Eve would have had to have been some invincible superhero to survive....they weren't.

2. Its also pretty much been proven that dinosaurs existed before humans......makes sense. Had they been around at the same time, humans would be extinct from the dinosaurs attacking. A T-Rex is hands down the most dangerous animal of all time, maybe except for a shark, but we dont live in water. With all the T-Rexes as well as other dangerous dinos living, humans would have been killed off. According to creationism, the dinos would have had to been created, lived and gone extinct within a day or two before adam and eve were created. Again, impossible. I dont know how long the dinosaurs ruled the earth but it was longer than a week.

3. According to the bible, god talked to adam and eve, they talked to him back and they held a conversation. But language, spoken language at least, didn't come about until long after prehistoric times where the human race was just starting. So, if creationism is correct, Adam and Eve were really smart, their kids and there kid's kids were complete dumbshits. Do you really want to believe that all their offspring were dumbshits until thousands of years down the road, someone started talking again? [/b][/quote]
I love you, Todd.

 

I love you, Todd. [/b][/quote]
So do I

 

But doesn't the idea of some invisible man creating the entire universe seem a little absurd? I think so, besides, there are so many imperfections in nature that make you wonder "If god did create this, why does _____ happen." You can believe that god created everything if you want, but you have to wonder why he wouldn't make everything perfect and why he created diseases. When you make something or do a paper for schoo, you make it perfect, u doent tyep up ur papr liek dis on purpose....so why would god do that? And don't forget that there's not one shred of evidence to prove the creation theory.


Also, here's a few things:

1. It's been proven that at the beginning of time, the atmosphere was poisonous gas with very little or no oxygen and human life could not survive. According to the creation theory, Adam and Eve would have had to have been some invincible superhero to survive....they weren't.

2. Its also pretty much been proven that dinosaurs existed before humans......makes sense. Had they been around at the same time, humans would be extinct from the dinosaurs attacking. A T-Rex is hands down the most dangerous animal of all time, maybe except for a shark, but we dont live in water. With all the T-Rexes as well as other dangerous dinos living, humans would have been killed off. According to creationism, the dinos would have had to been created, lived and gone extinct within a day or two before adam and eve were created. Again, impossible. I dont know how long the dinosaurs ruled the earth but it was longer than a week.

3. According to the bible, god talked to adam and eve, they talked to him back and they held a conversation. But language, spoken language at least, didn't come about until long after prehistoric times where the human race was just starting. So, if creationism is correct, Adam and Eve were really smart, their kids and there kid's kids were complete dumbshits. Do you really want to believe that all their offspring were dumbshits until thousands of years down the road, someone started talking again? [/b][/quote]
1st of all (not reffering to Todd's topic) everyone keeps limiting God's power. He's a god, infinite power, whether he's real or a myth, this God's powerful. Creating the world in six days is no problem for one of his power, and all he had to do was speak it into existence. Second of all (referring to Missy's comment), although when God created the Earth, there was no "day" set up, the first books of the bible were written many years later by moses on Mt. Sinai, after the days system was set up. And besides, God is the all-powerful force in the heavens, he can see the future, and knows man's way of keeping time then.

In the beginning, everything was perfect. Of course, it's pointless to use the bible because you don't believe in it but the bible says that in the beginning, everything was perfect. Then man sinned and death came into the world. But still, they had it pretty good, living near a thousand years. Then, all the world sinned, and the great flood happened. the flood came from above, bringing all of space's junk in there, and men start to live shorter lives.
That would be what the bible has to say on it. Sin is what created imperfections, not God.

1. Could I get a document on the poisonious gas stuff? I've never heard of it and would like to look into it.

2. Dinosaurs existed the same time as man, proven by their footprints on top of each other in a fossil. The time between the steos couldn't have been more than 5 minutes, lest the clay or mud dry up. Also, T-Rexes have been proven to have not been able to kill. It's arms were too short to grab his prey, and his build was slow. The T-Rex was most likely a scavenger, taking the food of other predators. And dinosaurs aren't as mean as movies have made them. They eat their animals, and their plants, and leave us to do our own thing. And, if you want to us the bible, God had control over every one of those animals. He had the ability to bring them to Adam to be named.

3. From an atheist's view, spoken language didn't come for many years, cause they believe in evolution, and evolution says man wasn't around for a long time. Also, Adam and Eve had a long time to themselves in the garden. We do not know how long it was before they ate the fruit, and there was a tree of life in the garden, They may have developed language in that time, in fact, they had to have, otherwise the bible would contradict itself. Plus, God is a guy in the sky with infinite power and wisdom. He created the world in six days, it would've only been too easy for him to have given them the ability to speak.

 

i'm atheist but i do not denounce anyone that believes in god, after all i know more christians than atheists anyway.

 

I believe in respect and love and all those other things without a book telling me that I should. It isn't that I find them stupid (notice that I'm speaking for myself, here), it's that the majority of it doesn't make any sense to me, and it's the fact that the book contradicts itself too many times and has far too many inaccuracies for me. I know it was written by man and man makes mistakes, but if it was inspired by God and he was telling these men what to write, don't you think it would've been free of errors?

Also, I have a strong feeling that religion is the entire reason that the world is the way it is today. Everything was fine before religion came along. (And with religion, I group Greek and Roman mythology, as well.) Once these religions started popping up, we started having the wars and whatnot. I may be completely off-base, but I feel that religion is the whole reason there are any wars to begin with.

Also, without religion, the Native Americans would've been on this continent for hundreds of years longer than they were. Why do I say this? Because the Puritans and Pilgrims left England to get away from the Church - something religious. Had there been no Church, and just people believing whatever they wanted to believe, I have a strong feeling that the world would be a much, much different place.

 

Religion, freedom, and all that crap are the start of wars, I agree. However, I believe that the bible has no contradictions or inaccuracies. What do you find, inaccurate about it?