Miss Murder-->Hitler?

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    esaul17

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    After watching the video and analyzing the lyrics, it seems like miss murder might have been written about Hitler. Lets look at the lyrics.

    "Miss Murder"

    [Chorus:]
    Hey Miss Murder, can I
    Hey Miss Murder, can I
    Make beauty stay if I
    take my life?


    Hitler arguably killed himself when his vision of the german and the world being ruled by the ultimate Aryan race crumbled. To die would allow him to die in his own "beautiful" world while it was still around.

    Woah

    With just a look they shook
    And heavens bowed before him.
    Simply a look can break your heart.


    Possibly refering to Hitler's ability to rally all of Germany seemingly effortlessly and, in turn, beginning to role over the Allies and violate the Treay of Versailles. Hey "shook" all of Europe almost effortlessly, almost with just a look. They all bowed before him. Andso he broke the hearts of those nwho dreamed of peace with the same effortless "look".

    The stars that pierce the sky;
    He left them all behind.
    We’re left to wonder why
    He left us all behind.


    Reffering to his death. He left all who looked up to him and fought for his perfect world behind.

    [Chorus]

    Same as before.

    Dreams of his crash won’t pass
    Oh, how they all adored him.
    Beauty will last when spiraled down.


    Dreams of his failure will always be around, as even now he is commonly used to personify evil. people will continue to hope and dream that evil like him will perish. Furthermore, people may relive the glory of his crash in their dreams for years to come. The of Rememberance Day.

    The stars that mystified
    He left them all behind.
    And how his children cry
    He left us all behind.


    The beginning is continuing to symbolize him leaving the world behind in death. Also, one of his supporting groups were the Hilter Youth. Some reffer to the people of Germany as Hitler's "children" at the time, as he attempted to establish himself as their God and use his book "My Struggle" their Bible. Again, he left his children behind in death.

    [Chorus]

    Same as before.

    What's the hook, the twist
    Within this verbose mystery?
    I would gladly bet my life upon it.


    Now they take the view of an outsider trying to solve the mystery on how so many could side with his evil. They would risk their lives to find a hint that could lead to discovering this.


    That the ghost you love, your ray of light
    Will fizzle out without hope.


    Claiming that his evil will die with him. The ghost is referring to Hitler, who is now dead. His perfect world will crumble.

    We're the empty set just floating through, wrapped in skin,
    Ever searching for what we were promised.


    Speaking of those who worshiped Hitler. They are empty now that he is gone. Still searching for that perfect world he promised him.

    Alternatively, it could be taking the point of view of the Jewish. Hitler promised them things they never received when he enticed them to move. Those still alive are also lost in the world, subject to so much death and separated from their families, they are a set of soulless (empty) bodies (wrapped in skin).

    Reaching for the golden ring we never let go,
    Who would ever let us put our filthy hands upon it.


    This makes it more likely that they were not reffering to the Jewish, but Hitler's followers. While the Jewish could still be striving to reach that "golden ring" Hitler promised them, the world no longer saw the Jewish as inhumane at this point in time, so they wouldn't be seen negatively (as is the impression given off by the words "filthy hands").

    It makes sense that they are speaking of Germans trying to free themselves of the guilt of war placed on them after World War I, which Hitler relieved. Also, it refers to them trying to find that world that died with their leader.

    [Chorus x2]

    Once again, more of the same.




    Anyways, tell me what you think of this. Sorry if it's a bit messy, I'll proofread it later.
     
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    Christopher

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    I think you might be taking this a little too far but it could be true...

    Unless AFI or who ever in that band wrote those lyrics tells us that it isn't about him but about ... than it's possible, you know.
     
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    ...Lauren?

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    I thought it might be about a serial killer or cult leader, or a combination of the two, like Charles Manson or something.

    Hitler and Jesus are the two main interpretations that are floating around.
     
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    esaul17

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    Yeah, Jesus would work well also.
     
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    KirbyRockz

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    Let's not interpret the lyrics and just listen to the song.
     
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    ...Lauren?

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    I doubt AFI wrote a song about Jesus.

    PS: I wasn't saying that's what I thought, that was what some people were saying on a song interpretation website.
     
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    Evil Angel

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    i pretty much think its about hitler
     
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    esaul17

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    Let's not go into a topic about lyrics analysis if we don't want to analyze lyrics.
     
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    Davey likes to add spiritual elements into his songs.
     
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    ...Lauren?

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    The song does sound like it's about Hitler, but I wonder why he would write about him, and that's why I question that interpretation.
     
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    Astat

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    Eh, I really doubt it just because Sing the Sorrow and Decemberunderground are both part of this kinda ongoing mystery the band has had going on for a long time. I'd rather not explain it, but it's loosely based on stuff like astrology, the Zodiac, and numerology, as well as some rather intricate secret messages and clues the band has left both online and in real life. Basically it's all supposed to explain stuff like why the 2 Leaving Songs are out of order on Sing the Sorrow, and sort of tell a story. They aren't full-blown concept albums, but there's a degree of a story to both of them.
     
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    How did you find out about that? Thats pretty interesting.
     
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    ...Lauren?

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    Yeah, how did you find out about that?
     
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    Rather Red

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    The mystery he's referring to can be summarized on the AFI Official Message Board, which is actually the Despair Faction Board.

    I've actually yet to figure out if the answer to the mystery really will tell the fans the correct interpretation (or the way Davey envisioned it) to the albums. I thought that it's just a way for the really hardcore fans to get to meet the band and weed out all the others. I also think it's a way for the most passionate fans to get tickets to secret shows.

    Anyway, when I first heard the song, I immediately thought it was based on Jesus and His life. Later, however, I realized it could be about nearly anyone who's commited suicide (which I don't think Jesus did, but Davey apparently does) to forever immortalize and glorify themselves. Hitler fits this quite well. I think you missed that, in the verse, the "stars" is actually another name for the Jews.

    It's quite interesting that an AFI interpretation thread has popped up on this message board, because I've been on the AFI boards all week trying to interpret December Underground. My interpretation started with the theory that Davey was claiming to be the Antichrist (because of the replacement of love with sadness, the album release date, and how the Antichrist claims to be God). I toned that down a little with my current theory. I now think that December Underground actually represents a cult/religion in which Davey Havok (the AFI lead singer and lyricist) is the leader. It's a conceptual place where fans can find peace within each other, and more importantly, within the music. Davey becomes more and more megalomaniacal throughout the album, and comes to the conclusion that suicide (purely conceptual suicide, just means AFI is breaking up, no one's literally dying) is the only way to forever glorify himself and AFI in the eyes of the fans. He goes out on top, as a martyr. He sacrifices his passion for all the fans who don't want to see AFI get old and sell out. If you want to read more of my interpretation and see more evidence, you can go on the Despair Faction message board, go to the "AFI Everything" section, and search for "37mm Megalomaniacal Main Character Interpretation".
     
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    ...Lauren?

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    That's what I said: cult leader.:p Except you explain yourself thouroughly, whereas I didn't...
     
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    That's a very interesting interpretation. I like the one about the cult rather than Hitler because, although it's a realistic one, is becoming overused among lyrics.
     
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    androidkaita

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    Yeah, and the way he acts on the video is probably a reference to hitler...

    EMO HITLER XD!
     

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