Orchestra + Rock

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Does An Orchestra Belong In Rock Music?

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    $pvcxGhxztCasey

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    So there I was, going through all my CD's, like any normal, bored person at 4:37 AM. I was shuffling through all the CD's I have, which, mind you, isn't a lot, only about 65 or so. So I sifting through all of them when I found a CD that I haven't listened to in awhile...Metallica's S&M. I was listening to it this morning, and I was thinking to myself, "is it such a good idea to bring in an orchestra in a live metal/rock concert?"

    Metallica took a half way decent idea, and made it seem ######'' awesome, to me at least. There have probably been some bands that I haven't caught that have done this before Metallica, but that concert seems like one of the greatest, in my opinion.

    This poses the question, "Is it a good idea?". KISS recently did a concert with the London Symphony Orchestra or one of those, and I thought it was down right awful. Bringing together an orchestra with an old group like Metallica is one thing, but KISS is a completely different story.

    All my Metallica fan boy-ness aside, it's a downright terrible idea. Bringing rap & rock together is one thing, but bringing together rock & classical music? Whoa. Now you're out of the planet. It worked with Metallica, maybe because they had already sold out so anything could sound good with them, but it didn't work with KISS, maybe because they haven't sold like Metallica has. KISS went mainstream sure, but they didn't completely change their sound like Metallica. Metallica changed everything about their music, right down to their haircuts.

    Back on topic...what do you guys think? Does orchestra music (I forget the fancy term lol) belong on the same stage as rock/metal? I don't think it does, since blending 2 different styles of music has never worked. ####, even Walk This Way sucked. If you don't believe me, I'll refer to the worst rap/rock song of all time...Ja Rule feat. Metallica - We Did It Again. I believe Layne & Tupac were turning in their graves when they heard that song in Heaven/Hell. Anyways...

    What is your take on this? You know my take on it, but it all really comes down what the majority thinks. Maybe I'm alone on this? Maybe I'm not? Who the #### knows. Just vote in the damn poll ;)

    Hell, who knows, since I have no life at all anymore, maybe if you guys like my little rant, I'll keep doing it every few days or whatever on different topics...

    SO VOTE! NOW!

    .:walks away:.


    NOTE: This probably made no sense, since it was 5:00 am when I wrote this
     
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    Todd

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    Metallica sucks at anything they do, they even suck at sucking, so they suck at having an orchestra in their sucky music. The only thing they don't suck at is being the greedy bastards that they are

    The orchestra at the beginning of Faint and in Breaking The Habit sounds good, as well as the Krwling remix. I guess it depends on the band and how they use it
     
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    Kæton

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    I do think orchestra can be part of rock songs. Sometimes strings can make a song darker, or make it more relaxing. It all depends on how it's used, and when it's used.

    Hoping that the people in the orchestra are actually good :lol:.
     
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    I like the idea of having an orchestra be part of rock songs. I agree with what Keaton said, that an orchestra can make a song more darker and relaxing. :)
     
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    Ryan

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    An orchestra could very possibly be used in rock music. As long as it sounds good, then it's all good. I mean it depends how they use it. As long as they don't just throw an orchestra in to have an orchestra and it actually fits in the style of music then i am sure it would be alright.

    Hey Todd you forgot one thing, Metallica also doesn't suck at making sucky ass new crap.
     
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    Mark

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    Songs like "Krwlng", "Breaking The Habit" and "Faint" are awesome songs with orchestra. I think it depends on how the orchestra is used to depict a mood, and how the strings are arranged and everything. Another awesome addition to rock music is piano; LP songs like "In The End", "Numb", "My December", and lots of Evanescence's tracks along with other rock songs are amazing with piano. I believe orchestra and piano deserve to be in rock music, but not just in every song, because everything would sound somewhat the same.
     
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    Every song that Evanescence has ever done has been hard-rocking (for the most part) and has strings and piano, and they actually make the tracks sound even better. Linkin Park uses some type of string or piano in all of their songs even if it's really small and hard-to-notice. I actually think it's awesome listening to a hard-hitting track and all of a sudden hearing strings. Taproot blew me away with their sophomore album Welcome because of its strings. Adema's new album also has plenty of strings on it.

    With that said, I do feel classical music and hard rock go together, and they go together well.
     
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    Jawknee

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    That's what I would have said. ^_^
     
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    That's what I would have said. ^_^ [/b][/quote]
    Can i just agree to all and be done with?
     
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    Uh. I think its cool. Just don't put opera in rock.. I hate it.

    Nightwish.. for example.. suck.
     
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    Imagine Faint live with an orchestra. w00t
     
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    I loooove Classical music so I guess my opinion might be a little biased but hell yes! The way evanescence blends their choral, orchestral and piano with the hard rock bit is amazing, especially with Amy Lee's voice. But in general, I think that as long as the band knows what they're doing and doesn't present some ugly tacky background noise then write it off as orchestral...Go for it.
     
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    Chrissy

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    orchestra plus rock can sound really cool when done correctly. i really liked the orchestra use in reanimation for both krwlng and the intro. evanescence's use of orchestra was also cool. if you can balance out the two correctly, then i say go for it
     
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    Jawknee

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    The Cranberries use a full orchestra often. It sounds superb. :)
     
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    Terry

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    If they suck at sucking, then would that make them less suck-y?



    I think it would be a good idea to put orchestra music in songs, as long as its done tastefully and fits in everything. Like LP. ^_^
     
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    I didnt vote. it serves it's purpose in most situations but every rock record i hear shouldn't have violas and strings backing it. Metallica's S&M will be one of the best live albums in the history of recorded music. KISS are doing a Rock/Orchestra live album. im not into KISS so i wont check it out.
     
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    Jawknee

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    I take it you don't like Linkin Park then?
     

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