"Rap Isn't Real Music"

IMO you guys are getting WAY . I mean the topic (since I started it) is basically what do you think as rap as a WHOLE. I know people who say ALL rap isn't 'real' music. Not just mainstream, underground, hip-hop. Or whatever. The whole genre. Debated mainstream rap is useless because there's too many arguments for and against mainstream music and you people will just argue.

So is rap (as a whole) real music? A lot of people say yes. Some people I know say no. "They're just talking. Anyone can do that."

To me writing a song like Aerosmith's "Dream On" can be just as hard as writing a good lyrical song with no vocal melody like Eminem's "Stan". But some people would beat me down for saying that.

 

I don't care if this is off topic, but not ALL mainstream rap is bad.

I mean, you have rappers like Kayne West, Nas, Eminem, Ice Cube & Twista.

I think the mainstream is turning around. Slowly? yeah. But, IMO, it's starting to get better.

That goes for all genres of music.

 

I agree with that. Every genre has had it's time period where it's been flooded with copy cats and crappy music.


AND I CAN'T BELIEVE OUTKAST HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED!!! Their CD(s) Speakerboxxx/Love Below give new hope to rap/hip hop.

Disagree with that and I'll have to kill you. :angry:

 

I guess Outkast is okay. Their not my cup of tea, but they're okay.


Sleepy Brown (?) is awesome though.

 

Sleepy Brown???
never heared of him

 

Sleepy Brown, as seen in The Way You Move.


Outkast is in his song, I Can't Wait.

 

I love that song. His voice is so smooth

 

i have no problem with rap but it isnt real music, its someone talking fast

 

There's the difference that other people argue. If they write a GOOD lyrical rap, I have no problem with them, even if they are 'just talking.' But a lot of rappers' lyrics cover topics that are completely irrelevant and pointless. They are the "musicians" I can't stand.

 

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Sorry but I have to beat you down for that

For "Dream On":
-A catchy chorus (with different drums/bass/guitars/vocal melodies)
- great acoustic stuff, there's an actual DEVELOPMENT of the song. doing that well is extremely difficult. You don't see any musical development in rap songs, thats my biggest gripe.
- There are 4 different parts for 5 mins plus that are really diverse

For Eminem:
- Rhythm and lyrics for verse and chorus (i know its hard to do, but thats more poetry than music)
- he gets in someone else to do the actual SINGING....other than a bassline and a beat there is really no musical stuff to it...its just looped. Lyrically its genius, but musically its boring as hell.

Thats my interpretation of it....

 

i think rap music these days is slowly becoming all the same

 

yeah i agree with you. lets just hope it will get back up.
dont worry j-flex i didnt think you were offensive at all