Gay Rights

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    TeMpEsT

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    God has nothing to do with politics or the government, so that shouldn't be an option.
     
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    Being "gay" can be said 2 different way. "I am gay", as in I am happy. Or people say, "I am Gay", as in there are homosexuals. People can believe and/or do whatever they want and i really dont give a sh*t what men and women want to do with one another. But I do have to say that.....why the hell does anyone care about men getting married to other men and other women getting married to other women. And I do know that straight people say that men how are gay is a nasty thing. I support that opinion all the way. if 2 men are gay, married, and hapy to be with each other, then why does everybody care of what they do. How does people being gay or lesbian offend straight people? This country needs to take a thought about what they do.
     
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    church and state are seperate, religion shouldn't infuence government laws. what should be influencing laws is what our founding fathers said, "All men are created equal." Sadly, in today's conservative, religion-based government, religion plays a part, and the Declaration of Independence doesnt.
     
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    People are way too interfering. IMO, what gay couples do behind closed doors is nobody's business. Even if they're showing affection in public places, there's always the option of looking away. After all, it's a free country. Gay marriages don't infringe upon anyone's rights so I don't get why people have to be so touchy about it. Keeping in mind that a marriage is a union of two people who love each other. Therefore, if two guys like each other, they should be allowed to get married.
     
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    People are way too interfering. IMO, what gay couples do behind closed doors is nobody's business.
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    Besides the adopted kid. It's gonn athink that what its parents do is normal, and THAT's the problem. He/she will grow up in a world which is totally different to what she thought was normal.

    That's my point you all find so difficult to get. I still haven't read a single post which discusses my view, the way it is. ;)
     
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    Besides the adopted kid. It's gonn athink that what its parents do is normal, and THAT's the problem. He/she will grow up in a world which is totally different to what she thought was normal.

    That's my point you all find so difficult to get. I still haven't read a single post which discusses my view, the way it is. ;) [/b][/quote]
    Because your view makes no sense.

    It's people like you who ruin other people's views. You claim that they won't be "normal." Well your definition of "normal" is different from other people. What's "abnormal" to you may be perfectly "normal" to them.

    Who the hell cares what's normal and what's not?
     
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    Because your view makes no sense.

    It's people like you who ruin other people's views. You claim that they won't be "normal." Well your definition of "normal" is different from other people. What's "abnormal" to you may be perfectly "normal" to them.

    Who the hell cares what's normal and what's not? [/b][/quote]
    Um... society?
     
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    Um... society? [/b][/quote]
    I'd rather be a nonconformist, thanks.
     
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    whats the problem with allowing gay people to marry? i think its alright. i dont mind them. i dont stare at them. maybe i dont understand them, but they're human beings and they need respect. i just dont like the idea of them adopting kids. dunno.
     
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    I don't really care if they just do it in private, but I don't wanna see guys holding hands in like school or somewhere else


    Lesbians are ok though ;)
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    No offense but that's pathetic.
     
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    I know both gays and lesbians.

    I hold nothing against them, but the lesbians are bi and they only do it to get guys and pathetic things like that.

    Nothing against gay guys though, go Queer Eye For The Straight Guy!
     
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    I believe in the saying "Live and let live." I don't care if a person is homosexual or not. It's none of my or anyone else's business. I think homosexuals should get the same treatment as everyone else, no more or less. That is not the lifestyle I prefer, but if that's what they want, more power to them.
     
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    no its not the religion
    its the basic of human...
    if ur parents werent hetro u weren't born aait?
    but i think gays should have their rights....
    unfortountally i disgust kissing gay couples as well...
    it doesnt has to do with descriminate,...its just because its not my flavour....
    my opinion without offense at any gay....
     
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    No offense but that's pathetic. [/b][/quote]
    I'm sorry :(
     
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    Um... society? [/b][/quote]
    Well Phantom, if you're saying a child's not going to be 'normal' because they've got homosexual parents, then one of my parents must actually be the opposite sex :rolleyes:.

    I'm no where near like the rest of the people in my school except for the fact I'm human and that I'm a male. I grew up in a society that forbid homosexuality, but that doesn't mean that you have to follow it. It's easy to follow, but myself, I have grown to look passed what people say and take my own personal views on subjects.

    Just because someone could come out 'abnormal' shouldn't remove rights to any one to do something they want to do. What if still to this day there was racism and perhaps, you, weren't able to adopt any child because you weren't 'good enough' for society's views JUST because you're different from what they all see as "normal"? The word "normal" should never be used to describe any person because there are so many views of what 'normal' is between and among people.

    I mean really, though, if you're saying kids will grow up not knowing what is "right" to society, then I guess I grew up with homosexual parents because the environment I live in requires me to be a racist, and a homophobic, but I don't do either. Just because someone tells you something doesn't mean they're right or that it's the best way to handle a situation. TWO abusive, neglective, heterosexual parents are worse than two caring homosexual parents. Homosexuality doesn't have to work like religion where you 'pass it down from generation to generation' and you always control your life, so who's to say that you have to live like that the rest of your life? If there's so much concern on the way homosexual parents could live with a child, why not do what they usually do with foster homes and stuff? Have check-ups on the family and stuff.

    By the way Phantom, I understand what you mean, but to say they won't be 'normal' is what I highly disagree with.
     
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    Besides the adopted kid. It's gonn athink that what its parents do is normal, and THAT's the problem. He/she will grow up in a world which is totally different to what she thought was normal.

    That's my point you all find so difficult to get. I still haven't read a single post which discusses my view, the way it is. ;) [/b][/quote]
    i was sexually molested as a child, i thought it was completely normal, when i was 10 i watched my dad (he's an alcoholic) come home every night, drunk. i thought that was normal. (normal as in everybody went through it) guess what? i turned out fine, i practically forgot about being molested, i used to go to alateen (kinda like alcoholics anonymous, only for the teenagers with the alcoholic parents) i dont go anymore, because im fine.

    because of those experiences im not going to molest my next door neighbour. and what about becomeing an alcoholic?...... thats not in my power. my grandmother is an alcoholic, her son became one, that doesnt mean that i will, my aunt or uncle didnt become one. i may turn out like my dad or, i hope, i may turn out like his siblings.

    just like homosexuality, it has pretty much been predetermined. (an alcoholic doesnt know they are one until they have a drink, but of course, it takes years for them to admit it, but thats a different subject)
    i believe that homosexuality matches with my experiences, you may find it off topic, i find it as an alalogy.
     
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    homosexuality isn't predetermined, as in a hereditary sense.

    it's when the person chooses whether he or she is gay or not. all about thoughts and personal decisions. there's no hereditary part of homosexuality. you can choose if you're going to be gay or not, but for alcoholics it's their choice of whether they want to drink the beer. if their body starts to crave it, they'll have a tough time controlling it. for homosexuals, they can just choose to turn straight again if they feel like it. it's about feelings from the brain, not cravings from the body.

    i'm not sure if you agree with that or not. your stance is somewhat central.
     
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    Theoretically, homosexuality is caused by a hormone imbalance at birth so it is determined. Not determined in the sense that it's hereditary (ie. you won't be gay just because your dad was) BUT it is supposedly determined at birth. If you're male and you're born with excess oestrogen, you become attracted to other males. Similarly, females born with excess testosterone become attracted to other females. I can't remember where I heard this but it's a very common theory that would seem to make sense, only it's not 100% proven. Realistically speaking, you can't "choose" your sexuality. If that's really possible, there wouldn't be so many cases of homosexual teens committing suicide because they're so afraid of being ostracized OR of gay men marrying a women just to 'prove' they're not gay.

    If being gay is out of choice, life would be a hell of a lot easier.

    If you think about this in a purely animal sense, human beings are attracted to one another because (subconsciously) they're on a lookout for a mate. This might sound stupid but when a hot guy sees a hot girl, some chemical in his brain is going to make him feel attracted to her because his brain is telling him the girl would make a good mate and bear him healthy children (again, don't underestimate your subconscience). If in any case a guy is attracted to ANOTHER guy then obviously his hormones are messed up. It all boils down to cravings from the body so I didn't agree with your last statement there.

    The physical attraction comes from your body. The love and the emotions come from your brain. That's what makes us human.
     

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