Linkin Park making Metal (Malathion+Tritonus (2008 Berlin Demo)

lol @ people still thinking there's some big clandestine conspiracy involving Warner controlling the music the band makes. An album like THP would never have been released in a million years if that was even remotely true.

 

Yeah, people keep implying that the band wanted to do a full on metal album, but Warner made them write songs like Until It's Gone and Final Masquerade so that the album would sell. No... maybe they wrote those songs because they like writing softer, more poppy songs? Somewhere, in the middle of writing a whole bunch of heavier songs, they came up with some songs that were a bit softer and decided to keep them on the album. These were chosen as singles because, well, can you imaging KTTK being played on your local radio? If the band wanted to write a really weird and alternative album, they could have, but every LP album so far has had poppy songs, they're not going to stop now. Why? Because the band likes writing softer material, and to be fair, they're really good at it too. Both UIG and FM are great, IMO.

 

If LP made a metal album, they would mostly throw in a lot of Tool influences (A mixture of alternative and progressive metal). After listening to the solo and the ending of KTTK, it does make me wonder what would it be like if they followed the grindcore direction for just one song. They might have some sort of potential to do that rather making a "pure" metal album because it's a bit more punk oriented, but it's very unlikely. If it does happen, then make it a full instrumental song.

 

I think this pretty much answers that "Warner being a dictator" myth

"The success of Hybrid Theory afforded us the ability to have more creative control, which is a great thing. You hear all of these horror stories about weird industry bad guys and bands that hate their labels and all this stuff, and I’m sure that stuff goes on in some cases, but what we did with Hybrid Theory worked out for both parties. We’ve afforded ourselves a level of trust with the people that we work with, so we can be more self-contained. We have a hand in our merchandise design, website design, our videos, all of our music. We want to make sure that our vision is set forth in an accurate way, the way we imagined it, and that it’s honest music and we’re true to ourselves and our fans"

- M. Shinoda

 

^ That's Cool.

I think the reason people seem to think of Warner as some bad guys is because of the stuff that happened back the scenes during HT. The get me gone stuff. And warner also seem like a faceless commercial bad guy entity from the outside. They do stuff like pulling off fan covers youtube, right? I'm not saying that they're bad guys. Its wrong to generalize and to see everything in your own eyes. There are probably plenty of people working there who are passionate about their work. But I think, this is probably the reason some fans resent Warner and wonder what LP would've been without them. Its a predictable line of thought.

/pointless

 

Delete these two words and i agree with you. That alone should explain, why they still were able to release THP.

How i hate these prejudes... i never said that. "Final Masquerade" is my 2. favorite song of THP. I don't care where the band goes at next, they could make blues, jazz, country whatever - the main thing is that it sounds good. By the way, when it's about selling records, the "best tip" Warner could give - especially couple years ago - would be: "Go back to nu-metal! Everyone were crazy about these first two records." "One Step Closer" was the first single, not the softest one when you ask me. Or "faint", both had huge success. I'm sure they would have huge success while going the nu-metal route even when the genre is dead. Look at AC/DC, their making the same music over and over again but with huge success. Why? Because their name is a brand, like LP's name is too.

I don't know how much Warner is involved in their process. But what i know is that Warner is big and interested in money (obviously). No one can tell me, that they give a damn what the record sounds like respectively if there is a chance of success or not. Warner has trust in LP. They can do whatever they want, because they know that every record has wonderful melodies and is catchy. That is interesting for Warner and nothing else.

I think LP would have more freedom (creatively) while leaving Warner, unless they are happy with their situation.

 

I wasn't talking about you specifically, it's just an opinion I've seen thrown around here often, it wasn't a "prejudice" against you.

I think it's obvious that the band would have more freedom if they left their label, of course Warner are interested in money. I just don't think it's a big enough of a deal, if the band wrote a new album that was completely uncommercial, that had 0 potential pop hits, it's not like Warner would refuse to release it. At worst the band is encouraged to write catchy melodies, but if they refuse to, they still have the upper hand. Warner would lose much more than LP in refusing to release a completely uncommercial album. Yeah, they'd have more freedom leaving the label, but I'm not sure how much freedom they don't have already. And they'd lose in return the promotion and marketing that Warner provides, which the band themselves might not feel comfortable risking. I don't know. I think on principle they might as well leave, but I don't think it makes much of a difference.