Student gets tasered.

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    Luke

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    Quoted for the truth.

    And sorry but how is tasering the guy not excessive? He wasn't posing a threat to anyone, he just felt strongly about the quiestion he was asking. Why the fuck did the cops try and arrest him in the first place? Surely America hasn't given up on free speech to that extreme length has it? If that guy had been me I probably would have gotten alot worse than a Taser because he was being told to shut up when he had every right to speak his mind and that's something I believe in very strongly. Evidently this guy did too.

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    Yeah. I mean, I believe it was in Cincinnati where some guy ran from the cops and was shot in the back two or three times. He was unarmed, wasn't high or drunk -- he just didn't want to go to jail because he'd never gone before. Needless to say he died, but the cops got off scott free for thinking he had a weapon.
     
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    Every one of those police officers should lose their jobs due to police brutality, This guy was expressing his 1st Amendment Rights and they tazered him.

    As Tucker said, they should ALL be ashamed of themselves.
     
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    I never thought I'd say this, but I actually agree with you. :lol:
     
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    I don't care if he was resisting arrest. I agreed with them pulling him off of the premises and felt he deserved to be removed from the building.

    But tell me how in god's name he deserved to be tazered when he was not threatening ANYBODY? I swear to fucking god, we are losing more freedom with every passing day, in this country.

    Our democracy is turning into a dictatorship.
     
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    If you think that he should be pulled off the premises, but he is refusing and not cooperating, what would you do if you were the cops?



    Whether or not he should've been removed is irrelevant, the point is, that if you're under arrest, you cooperate and let the facts come out in the investigation. Fighting like this guy did isn't going to help your case at all and will only make things worse, as we saw here. He had it coming IMO.
     
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    I agree. He wasn't even being arrested, He was being escorted off the premises. I never hear any of the cops recite his miranda rights nor do I hear any cop say "you are under arrest", which leads me to believe that he was just being escorted outside because he got out of hand (in their eyes).
     
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    From what CNN says he hasn't been charged with anything yet either. It's like some people can't get over the tasering aspect of it. Is that a horrible thing to do to somebody? Yes, but I don't see anybody coming up with any solutions other than "they shouldn't have tasered him." I'll be the first to call out the cops when they've done something wrong (read my last post), but in this case I don't think they used excessive force.
     
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    He was approached several times by the security because he went well over the one-minute maximum for asking questions.

    He then became belligerent and hostile towards Kerry and the cops, then resisted being removed from the premises. He deserved what he got. You do not resist the cops.

    Then he started overreacting and crying out for attention, to cause a scene (which is what he was there for in the first place, obviously). In all actuality, I think he wanted to be tazed just so he could get the attention towards whatever ridiculous premise he was trying to put out there.

    He was charged with a third-degree felony for resisting arrest with violence.

    Washington Post Article
     
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    I did not know there was a one minute limit and that he was approached several times. The video looks like he was suddenly just...taken out of there.

    After reading this, I believe the tazering was far more justified. I still feel they did it WAY too long and excessively, but I agree with the charges.
     
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    Leave it to the mainstream news stations to leave out important facts in order to make a story look more exciting.
     
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    Nothing is justified being tazered (except killikg of course). It's just a very dangerous weapon that gives 50 000 V shocks to people who mostly don't deserve it.
    And fot that one minute thing, why didn't Kerry just say "You're time is over, next one please". Or was he too embarassed to answer the question?
    That article says that Kerry answered but can anyone hear what he says?
     
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    I guess we should all shut up then.period.
     
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    Disturbing.
     
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    Kerry had nothing to do with it, he even said after the whole thing that he could've handled it.

    So what else are the cops supposed to do? He obviously won't cooperate. Tazering was the right option IMO.


    And generally, being tazered is safe. There is a very, very small chance of someone dying from it, but overall, it's rather safe. And if you do happen to die from it? Well you shouldn't be fucking resisting arrest
     
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    He shouldn't have resisted his arrest but there is no justification in tasering the guy, full stop. There were dozens of police officers there, all they had to do was cuff him and drag him outside. That's what the English police force do and it works fine.

    Tasering someone should only come as a last resort. The guy wasn't posing a threat to anyone so I think the cops overdid it big time. It seems the only time the cops were actually working as a unit were when they were holding him down while he was being tasered. If it actually took all those people to subdue the situation then the US police force must be more of a joke than I thought.
     
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    I heard on the news today that 2 of the 7 cops that arrested him were made redundant.

    There's a huge protest going on at the university of the student and people feel like their free speech was taken away.

    Just an update on what happened.
     
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    They're campus police. They're the rent-a-cops that barely got through the police academy and the best job they could get was on a college campus.


    It's hard to tell from the video though, but with the way he was fighting and kicking, he was probably posing a threat to the police officers themselves, and that's why they tazed him. And IMO, he deserved every bit of it.
     
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    They kept telling him his time was up, but he was like "I've got more
    questions!"Afterwards in the lobby he was heard screaming "their trying to kill me!" I shit you not! :lol:
     
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    Well that only explains their lack of self-control but still not the tazering.
     

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